Neverside

Originally posted by ringpull:

You've done nothing more than poor attempts at design.

Originally posted by ringpull:

Not for Simon though. He's too damn proud of his work, it's like there's a screen blocking him from anything but the glory.

What on earth are you talking about? I have nothing to do with this design, at all. I'm going to code it, that is all I ever had to do with this design.

And now, get back to the topic. Ringpull can send me a PM if he wishes to further explain why he's better than the rest of us, I'm all ears. Just don't take it here.

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Neversidian, your staff is broken.

Originally posted by ringpull:

So basically, because you only want nice comments, I will shut up for you.
Not for Simon though. He's too damn proud of his work, it's like there's a screen blocking him from anything but the glory.

lol, I never thought I'd see the day when Natural Cause looked friendly.

You have a pretty high horse for someone I've never really seen display what they're so talented at. How about name dropping some of these large network organisations and are we talking about data centers, corporate intranets or what? I'd be thrilled to know what a CCNA qualifies you to be so profoundly disgusting about your background and 'ability'.

Secondly, Simon is far more capable and proficient in CSS than anyone I've ever seen and has demonstrated his ability to make things work across the board more so than I can say for most, Rick when he's not WoWing is also quite capable. His background in client side scripting is what he is good at, he is not actually designing or presenting the content you are seeing. Dave is doing that and Simon is coding it to Dave's specs, maybe you should know what you're flinging **** at before you decide to throw.

All in all, you've acted poorly and carelessly and whether your skills do infact supercede that of the current staff, it certainly lacks in the character department. NeverAPI is a pile of crap as-is, it's been that way for awhile and since you are so profoundly skilled in Object Oriented PHP there is no way you could even offer help to improve the engine as it is in procedural and it has made everyone who has reviewed it so far go 'wtf'.

Anywho, feel free to critique whatever you so wish, just do so with feedback of alternatives rather than simply bashing it for the sake of it's end result conversion to "Poopal". I would expect maturity to go with your skillset, but apparently it's only made you as arrogant as you are ignorant.

Nothing more needs to be said on that matter, so unless you have something to offer up as an opinion to alternatively present the content, shut up.

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Data centres, corporate intranets, you name it.
I love the way you still act as if you own the place. You've always been the angry staff member... it was probably your attitude that caused half of the community to leave.

Oh, and if Simon is so good at what he does, why are half the forums visibly screwed on IE6. Any half decent coder knows that cross-browser support is a must.

Originally posted by ringpull:

I love the way you still act as if you own the place. You've always been the angry staff member... it was probably your attitude that caused half of the community to leave.

Oh, and if Simon is so good at what he does, why are half the forums visibly screwed on IE6. Any half decent coder knows that cross-browser support is a must.

I don't own the place, I'm just not a rampantly ranting tard who's trying to get his little point across by being entirely negative and prude. What caused half the community to leave was mostly the lack of progress and updates, not anyone's attitudes aside from members like you who find it necessary to bash anything you disagree with to 'prove points'. The site was very active until after I left and I did whatever I could to keep it that way and keep people informed the best I could. However, once again you speak on things you don't really grasp or understand so it figures to get that response from you.

As for Simon and the current forum setup he never got to finish that, he was working on making it work in IE6, Safari and Opera. He simply never got a chance to finish because he was no longer in contact with someone who had access to the server and SVN to update his new template changes. Don't speak on stuff you do not know, it's very ignorant.

Anywho though, it's obvious your only goal is to piss and moan until something is released in which you probably still will not go and you'll remain to bash how shitty it looks, or how poorly coded you think it is and so forth. You're trolling now and you'll continue to troll, your perogative though, obviously it's your time you're dedicating to voice an opinion on something you have a huge distaste for. If those are your priorities though, so be it.

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Well nothing against you ringpull but i remember the good old days when people such as myself and Bigtoach were teaching you the ropes in the PHP forums, although you may know a few languages, anyone can teach themselves OOP whether it be PHP, Java, RoR etc, VB is called visual BASIC for a reason and CSS, personally i know little about it but from what i have used of it, it wouldn't be overly hard to learn. I'm also from the UK and I've never heard of a CCNA, also how is it possible to code a web 2.0 application, you just use existing languages and add a few buzz words and tagging features into it. Nothing against you but the languages you know any fool could learn, and for the record i can code in PHP, C++, VB, JAVA, JS and XHTML, CSS, RoR which I'm still learning, and I'm studying an MA in Computer Science at Aberdeen university.

Just no need to be a cock, no one is being paid to do anything for Neverside, its a community effort, and its up to the people within the community to deem how much effort they put in.

Oh CCNA is a Certificate in CISCO Routers and Networks or something like that. You can usually start it on your 2nd year of high school and be up to Level 3 when you leave.

Oh its a CISCO course, yea jesus, that must have put a real strain on you!

Keep the comments and criticism coming. The team will definitely need it to improve on what we have now. Some things are good some things are horrible, it's good to be frank.
The next preview will definitely be better.

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AEN DIRECT
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If I have anything to do with it, which I probably won't, it'll knock your socks off!

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I'd rather go Dave and Simon's way so it can roXorz my boXorz...

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Man, NS has always been a heated place. killing TF angered a lot of angry people.

Just for the record I think the new design kicks ***. Rock on Dave.

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Keep up the good work

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I prefer the current design

The ad placement : I prefer the current ad placement...

A tad trend-whorish? The current color-scheme is much more original... no?
And it lacks contrast if you ask me. That's something I like about this color-scheme, it's got contrast yet doesn't hurt the eyes...

I would try and keep it at a 2 column layout. You'd need to decide what to keep though...
I would have 2 columns, one main content column which (on home page) display a row of :
- Greeting note (if not logged in), New PM (if logged in and new PM(s)) or some data/statistics about the user's personal studio (page views, comments, ratings, etc...) or replies to threads the user posted in/started/"subscribed" to
- most recent/most popular/random/whatever studio entries
- news
- the most active threads in forums

A couple ideas/comments/critiques!

Have fun

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Thanks guys

I'm working on some things to make the respective areas more cohesive, and removing/trimming/adjusting things that may have distracted the eye. Simplicity can be very challenging haha I've made significant improvements over what was publicly posted (well I think so anyhow hehe), but have set that version aside and am trying some alternative directions as well now to see where they take me.

We are taking things slow and steady now, and intend to get this just right. I'm also chipping away at the wording... as Steve Krug says: "Get rid of half of the words on each page, then get rid of half of what's left."

We are still refining it, but I have decided that Neverside deserves a new tagline that will pull its weight (our current tagline(s) are nice and pretty, but don't actually say much specific). A good tagline needs to characterize/sum up what Neverside is, clearly and informatively, differentiating Neverside's benefits from the competion in a personal, lively, possibly clever manner (credit, again, to Steve Krug - thank you Steve!!).

The new tagline so far is (and I'm open to additional ideas):

Share your knowledge
and showcase your work -
Graphics. Audio. Video. Code.

Here's a little screenshot so you can see how it's formatted.
(hehe yeah it's just the tagline not the layout - sorry to get your hopes up *grin*)

It's still a tad long for a tagline. It would be great to have the full idea conveyed with just the first part (without the Graphics. Audio...etc part), though that can be "tagged" on elsewhere (such as in the Welcome blurb). Doesn't have to have the periods as well (could be commas, etc). 6-8 words is ideal, a few more if needed. If you come up with the absolutely perfect tagline we end up using, I'll send you a free NS t-shirt (once we make some nice, new custom ones - later, but I'll send it). As you can see, we intend on showcasing "multimedia" not only graphics - and also plan to cater to the coders, as always Keep in mind the tips above if you make any suggestions (and please, only serious suggestions).

My computer's been acting up which has slowed me a bit - though I'm on the verge of getting the MacBook Pro I've been dreaming about, so that should help substantially

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-- Dave
Neverside Admin

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You didn't like my taggies? *tear*...oh well...

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Neverside - In Development. Expected Release: Unknown.
Tortustudios.com - In Development. Expected Release: Summer 2006.( You can visit it now)